Debian Bug report logs - #119821
[PROPOSAL] Postscript files requirements

Package: debian-policy; Maintainer for debian-policy is Debian Policy List <>; Source for debian-policy is src:debian-policy.

Reported by: Yann Dirson <>

Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 11:48:01 UTC

Severity: normal

Done: Manoj Srivastava <>

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From: Yann Dirson <>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <>
Subject: [PROPOSAL] Postscript files requirements
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 12:35:20 +0100
Package: debian-policy
Version: N/A; reported 2001-11-16
Severity: normal

I propose that we add a section under the "documentation" chapter, to
request a minimum of coherence and sanity of PostScript files.

My problem is that some maintainers (probably for paper-saving
reasons, which in itself is a valuable idea) ship 2-up versions of
postscript files, whereas others ship 1-up versions.

Problem with 2-up is that it is meant for printing, and not ideal for
online browsing.  I suggest that we require not to feed postscript
documents through a n-up-izer tool.

In the same direction of allowing easy browsing of ps docs, I suggest
that we require ps docs to contain orientation and format information.
Note: incidentally, it is possible that some n-up-izer tools (namely
psutils) strip this information.

See also: my bug report against package iproute

-- System Information
Debian Release: 2.2
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux kasba 2.2.19-reiserfs #1 Thu May 3 15:17:15 CEST 2001 i686

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From: Manoj Srivastava <>
Subject: Reviewing policy bugs
Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 00:34:49 -0500

        Perusuant to my message earlier, there are the first set of
  pending bug reports.

  * #114920: [PROPOSAL] remove foolish consistency in perl module names
       Package: debian-policy; Reported by: Joey Hess <>; 334
       days old.

	There was a long discussion, and I think most objections were
 were addressed. An interesting point was that debian packages are
 typically named after the CPAN _distribution name_, not the _module
 name_; and this needs be fixed in Perl policy to reflect reality.

	We need to modify the proposal to require the full name (as
 put in provides) to be also mentioned in the long description, and
 then perhaps perl policy can be changed? Are there any objections to
     * #115438: [PROPOSAL] addition of new menu tag for kde menu removal
       Package: debian-policy; Reported by: "Ivan E. Moore II"
       <>; 329 days old.

	From what I can gather, this proposal calls for the menu
 system honouring either a kderemove or a removeonwm tag, and not
 installing duplicate entries; however, as I understand it, there is
 no code, so this seems to be in the design phase.

	I think this is not suitable for inclusion in policy until we
 have modified the menu package (isn't it being rewritten or
 something?). Should be retitled PENDING, and severity lowered to
 wishlist or something.

     * #119821: [PROPOSAL] Postscript files requirements
       Package: debian-policy; Reported by: Yann Dirson <>;
       295 days old.

	Would make shipping only 2-up versions of postscript docs
 illegal. Gathered no seconds. I am not sure we need to make this
 policy. If the documentation is unreadable, bugs should be
 filed. Policy is, umm, not a stick. or sumpn.

	I am going to close this bug.


     * #123074: adding gfdl(7) and gpl(7)
       Package: debian-policy; Reported by: Matthias Klose
       <>; 272 days old.

       Also gathered no seconds.

	I think licenses should be added to common licenses when they
 are indeed common.  Roughly speaking, I would think that one needs to
 have at least a 5% share before one dubs a license common, don't you
 think? In any case, gdfl does not yet qualify (even discounting
 rumblings I heard regarding whether it is deemed free enough).

	I am going to close this bug.
     * #128681: Debian Menu Policy
       Package: debian-policy; Reported by: Ben Bucksch <>;
       239 days old.

	Umm. this bug report requires that a new. logical, consistent
 menu policy be created ;-).

	I am going to lower severity to wishlist until there is some
 meat to this report.
     * #128734: debian-policy: criteria for Games/Puzzles is not precise
       Package: debian-policy; Reported by: Yann Dirson <>;
      239 days old.

	Yet another menu classification bug. I am going to lower
 severity to wishlist until there is some meat to this report. Perhaps
 merge with 128681.
     * #129375: debian-policy: typo/logic error in debconf spec
       Package: debian-policy; Reported by: Wichert Akkerman
       <>; 235 days old.

	Umm. This seems like an out right bug in policy (though I
 don't yet grok debconf). I guess policy needs to be fixed.

     * #131583: debian-policy: packaging-manual section 7.1 missing from
       Package: debian-policy; Reported by: Gergely Nagy
       <>; 220 days old.

     * #148194: debian-policy: Clarification needed regarding multi-line
       Package: debian-policy; Reported by: "John R. Daily"
       <>; 104 days old.

	Hmm. I guess this could fall under the specifications bit. I
 would like the input of the dpkg folks to figure out what the format
 specification for the input files that packages need to create; and
 include them into policy.

     * #132069: sysnews: Attempt to be FHS compliant breaks compatibility
       with System V standard
       Package: debian-policy; Reported by: Dominik Kubla
       <>; 216 days old.

	Oh, great. The FHS and the SysV standards are incompatible.
 Has someone followed this up with the FHS folks?
     * #132767: debsum support should be mandatory
       Package: debian-policy; Reported by: Matthew Wilcox
       <>; 212 days old.

	From the report itself:

              > All rpm-based systems support rpm --verify.  Having
              > debsums support optional makes debian an inferior
              > distribution in this aspect.  Making DEBIAN/md5sums
              > required rather than optional would rectify this
              > situation.

              debsums is a poor and incomplete solution. The best
              thing is to have dpkg compute+store the same data when
              the package is unpacked on the fly. Then we don't bloat
              the archive, the feature can be turned on/off, etc.

 From the debsums man page:
       DPkg::Post‐Invoke {
           "debsums ‐‐generate=nocheck ‐sp /var/cache/apt/archives";
             /etc/apt/apt.conf fragment to generate missing checksums
             after upgrade/install.

	I am going to close this report.

     * #143941: define a usable character set for description/maintainer name
       Package: debian-policy; Reported by: Junichi Uekawa
       <>; 139 days old.

 	Hmm. Seems like we want to support utf-8 for the future,
  though perhaps that can wait until we get tool support for
  that. dpkg-query should start supporting it soon. I guess we should
  shelve this until we have better support from the tool chain. (we do
  not have consensus, in any case)

	I'll retitle this to PENDING and reduce severity to wishlist.
     * #149709: [BUG] section 10.3.3 does not provide enough guidance for
       package maintainers to use update-rc.d correctly
       Package: debian-policy; Reported by: "Branden Robinson"
       <>; 88 days old.

	Hmm. Part of this is a flaw in policy; the second part seems
 like a dictum to how update-rc.d ought to behave. The former is under
 the purview of policy, and shall be changed.

 It seems intuitively obvious to me, which means that it might be
 wrong. Chris Torek
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