Debian Bug report logs - #116359
RFP: apron -- An MPEG player running in a text-console

Package: wnpp; Maintainer for wnpp is wnpp@debian.org;

Reported by: Uwe Hermann <uh1763@hermann-uwe.de>

Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 12:03:03 UTC

Severity: wishlist

Done: Moritz Muehlenhoff <jmm@inutil.org>

Bug is archived. No further changes may be made.

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Bug#116359; Package wnpp. Full text and rfc822 format available.

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Uwe Hermann <uh1763@hermann-uwe.de>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: ITP: apron -- An MPEG player running in a text-console
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 13:58:55 +0200
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist

* Package name    : apron
* Version         : 0.2
* Upstream Author : Alexander Southgate <alex@spondooliks.org>
* URL             : http://spondooliks.org/alex/apron/apron.php3
* License         : GPL
* Description     : An MPEG player running in a text-console.

It uses aalib for displaying the videos...


Uwe.
-- 
:------------------ Uwe Hermann <uh1763@hermann-uwe.de> ------------------:
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| http://www.unmaintained-free-software.org -- Unmaintained Free Software |
:---------------------- http://www.hermann-uwe.de ------------------ :wq -:



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Bug#116359; Package wnpp. Full text and rfc822 format available.

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Message #10 received at 116359@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: jerome.marant@free.fr (Jérôme Marant)
To: Uwe Hermann <uh1763@hermann-uwe.de>
Cc: 116359@bugs.debian.org, debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#116359: ITP: apron -- An MPEG player running in a text-console
Date: 20 Oct 2001 14:20:30 +0200
Uwe Hermann <uh1763@hermann-uwe.de> writes:

> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> 
> * Package name    : apron
> * Version         : 0.2
> * Upstream Author : Alexander Southgate <alex@spondooliks.org>
> * URL             : http://spondooliks.org/alex/apron/apron.php3
> * License         : GPL
> * Description     : An MPEG player running in a text-console.
> 
> It uses aalib for displaying the videos...

  Are you serious? Does Debian really need this kind of useless
  software? Moreover, there are some other video players that
  can use aalib plugins to display video in a console.

  We really don't need that.

-- 
Jérôme Marant <jerome@marant.org>
              <jerome.marant@free.fr>

http://marant.org
              



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Message #15 received at 116359@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Wouter Verhelst <wouter@debian.org>
To: Jérôme Marant <jerome.marant@free.fr>
Cc: 116359@bugs.debian.org, <debian-devel@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Bug#116359: ITP: apron -- An MPEG player running in a text-console
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 14:23:29 +0200 (CEST)
On 20 Oct 2001, [iso-8859-1] Jérôme Marant wrote:

> Uwe Hermann <uh1763@hermann-uwe.de> writes:
>
> > Package: wnpp
> > Severity: wishlist
> >
> > * Package name    : apron
> > * Version         : 0.2
> > * Upstream Author : Alexander Southgate <alex@spondooliks.org>
> > * URL             : http://spondooliks.org/alex/apron/apron.php3
> > * License         : GPL
> > * Description     : An MPEG player running in a text-console.
> >
> > It uses aalib for displaying the videos...
>
>   Are you serious? Does Debian really need this kind of useless
>   software?

Usefullness of software is not a requirement for it to be packaged. A good
example is tuxracer in the m68k-port; It doesn't run on my Pentium I
at 166Mhz, let alone on a Motorola 68000 processor that runs at 50Mhz.
Still, it's compiled since it's there, and maybe some user would like to
have fun and install it.

Well... miracles do happen ;-)

>   Moreover, there are some other video players that
>   can use aalib plugins to display video in a console.
>
>   We really don't need that.

If you don't need it, you're welcome to not install it on your
personal system. I think it's really nice to have some software that can
do this, and probably will use it.

-- 
wouter dot verhelst at advalvas dot be

"Human knowledge belongs to the world"
  -- From the movie "Antitrust"




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Acknowledgement sent to Uwe Hermann <uh1763@hermann-uwe.de>:
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Message #20 received at 116359@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Uwe Hermann <uh1763@hermann-uwe.de>
To: Jérôme Marant <jerome.marant@free.fr>
Cc: 116359@bugs.debian.org, debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#116359: ITP: apron -- An MPEG player running in a text-console
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 14:24:52 +0200
Hi Jérôme,

On Sat, Oct 20, 2001 at 02:20:30PM +0200, Jérôme Marant wrote:
>   Are you serious?

Yes.

>   Does Debian really need this kind of useless software?

Please define what "useless" software is. We already have dozens of
IRC clients, dozens of MP3-players, dozens of MUAs etc. etc., so where
is the problem with having an additional MPG viewer?

I stumbled upon apron yesterday, and I found it to be quite nice, so I
decided to package it, which is what I'm going to do...


Uwe.
-- 
:------------------ Uwe Hermann <uh1763@hermann-uwe.de> ------------------:
| http://htsserver.sourceforge.net          -- Holsham Traders            |
| http://www.unmaintained-free-software.org -- Unmaintained Free Software |
:---------------------- http://www.hermann-uwe.de ------------------ :wq -:



Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, wnpp@debian.org:
Bug#116359; Package wnpp. Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to jerome.marant@free.fr (Jérôme Marant):
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Message #25 received at 116359@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: jerome.marant@free.fr (Jérôme Marant)
To: 116359@bugs.debian.org, debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#116359: ITP: apron -- An MPEG player running in a text-console
Date: 20 Oct 2001 14:42:18 +0200
Wouter Verhelst <wouter@debian.org> writes:

 
> Usefullness of software is not a requirement for it to be packaged. A good
> example is tuxracer in the m68k-port; It doesn't run on my Pentium I
> at 166Mhz, let alone on a Motorola 68000 processor that runs at 50Mhz.
> Still, it's compiled since it's there, and maybe some user would like to
> have fun and install it.

  Sorry, I can easily guess that the number of apron users will not exceed
  one or two. This is the kind of usefullness I'm talking about. Tuxracer
  is far away from this.

> 
> >   Moreover, there are some other video players that
> >   can use aalib plugins to display video in a console.
> >
> >   We really don't need that.
> 
> If you don't need it, you're welcome to not install it on your
> personal system. I think it's really nice to have some software that can
> do this, and probably will use it.

  It is one more package entering the archive. And when orphaned, noone
  will accept to take it over, so it'll give more work to the QA team,
  like those waiting for new maintainers in WNPP.
  

-- 
Jérôme Marant <jerome@marant.org>
              <jerome.marant@free.fr>

http://marant.org



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Bug#116359; Package wnpp. Full text and rfc822 format available.

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Message #30 received at 116359@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Wouter Verhelst <wouter@debian.org>
To: Jérôme Marant <jerome.marant@free.fr>
Cc: 116359@bugs.debian.org, <debian-devel@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Bug#116359: ITP: apron -- An MPEG player running in a text-console
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 14:46:11 +0200 (CEST)
On 20 Oct 2001, [iso-8859-1] Jérôme Marant wrote:

>   Sorry, I can easily guess that the number of apron users will not exceed
>   one or two.

You'd be surprised...

>   This is the kind of usefullness I'm talking about. Tuxracer
>   is far away from this.

I wasn't talking about tuxracer; I was talking about tuxracer *in m68k*.
Ever tried to run quake III on a 386? Right.

> > If you don't need it, you're welcome to not install it on your
> > personal system. I think it's really nice to have some software that can
> > do this, and probably will use it.
>
>   It is one more package entering the archive.

Out of how much? 7000?

>   And when orphaned, noone
>   will accept to take it over,

Exactly how can you know that? Do you have some sort of crystal ball or
something?

-- 
wouter dot verhelst at advalvas dot be

"Human knowledge belongs to the world"
  -- From the movie "Antitrust"




Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, wnpp@debian.org:
Bug#116359; Package wnpp. Full text and rfc822 format available.

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Message #35 received at 116359@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: jerome.marant@free.fr (Jérôme Marant)
To: 116359@bugs.debian.org, <debian-devel@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Bug#116359: ITP: apron -- An MPEG player running in a text-console
Date: 20 Oct 2001 15:00:43 +0200
Wouter Verhelst <wouter@debian.org> writes:

> On 20 Oct 2001, [iso-8859-1] Jérôme Marant wrote:
> 
> >   Sorry, I can easily guess that the number of apron users will not exceed
> >   one or two.
> 
> You'd be surprised...

  Maybe, trying it 5 minutes. Do you really intent to watch film with that?
  I wouldn't bet on this.

> 
> >   This is the kind of usefullness I'm talking about. Tuxracer
> >   is far away from this.
> 
> I wasn't talking about tuxracer; I was talking about tuxracer *in m68k*.
> Ever tried to run quake III on a 386? Right.

  So, this has nothing to do with what we are talking out.


> >   And when orphaned, noone
> >   will accept to take it over,
> 
> Exactly how can you know that? Do you have some sort of crystal ball or
> something?

  Statistics.

-- 
Jérôme Marant <jerome@marant.org>
              <jerome.marant@free.fr>

http://marant.org



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Message #40 received at 116359@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Pavel Epifanov Y2 <p_epifanov@yahoo.com>
To: Uwe Hermann <uh1763@hermann-uwe.de>
Cc: jerome.marant@free.fr, 116359@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#116359: ITP: apron
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 23:05:34 +0200 (CEST)
Dear Uwe,

Thank you for the new package. I would use it with pleasure and, as soon
as it gets the complete functionality of movie player (sound, interface to
DLL win codecs for formats like DivX/MPEG4 ), could use only it.

Linux is so nice platform even without X Windows ...

---
Regards,
Pavel Epifanov.




Changed Bug title. Request was from Uwe Hermann <uh1763@hermann-uwe.de> to control@bugs.debian.org. Full text and rfc822 format available.

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Message #47 received at 116359-done@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Moritz Muehlenhoff <jmm@inutil.org>
To: 114451-done@bugs.debian.org, 114564-done@bugs.debian.org, 116359-done@bugs.debian.org, 117183-done@bugs.debian.org, 117532-done@bugs.debian.org, 120692-done@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Closing outdated RFPs
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 20:41:57 +0200
This RFP has been closed as it is very old and the requested program
isn't even under active maintenance since at least two years. If the
program is really important to you, please revive it upstream first.

Cheers,
        Moritz



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