Debian Bug report logs - #526219
glib2.0: prefer libgamin-dev over libfam-dev?

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Steve Langasek <steve.langasek@canonical.com>
To: submit@bugs.debian.org
Subject: glib2.0: prefer libgamin-dev over libfam-dev?
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:45:15 -0700

Source: glib2.0
Version: 2.20.1-1
Severity: wishlist
User: ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com
Usertags: origin-ubuntu karmic

Hi folks,

The current glib2.0 package build-depends on libfam-dev | libgamin-dev. 
Would it be too much to ask to reverse the order of these build
dependencies?  ABI compatibility between the two libraries is enforced, so
the outcome should be equivalent, but in Ubuntu we have gamin as part of the
supported package set, not fam - so the current order makes it harder to
reconcile Ubuntu's main archive.

And at one point, I thought Debian was switching to use gamin in preference
over fam, as well - but this doesn't appear to be the case now?

If you don't want to make this change, feel free to close out the bug report
and we'll cope with the small inconsistency.

Thanks,
-- 
Steve Langasek                   Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS
Debian Developer                   to set it on, and I can move the world.
Ubuntu Developer                                    http://www.debian.org/
slangasek@ubuntu.com                                     vorlon@debian.org

Message #10 received at 526219@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Josselin Mouette <joss@debian.org>
To: Steve Langasek <steve.langasek@canonical.com>, 526219@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#526219: glib2.0: prefer libgamin-dev over libfam-dev?
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 11:14:52 +0200

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Le mercredi 29 avril 2009 à 14:45 -0700, Steve Langasek a écrit :
> The current glib2.0 package build-depends on libfam-dev | libgamin-dev. 
> Would it be too much to ask to reverse the order of these build
> dependencies?  ABI compatibility between the two libraries is enforced, so
> the outcome should be equivalent, but in Ubuntu we have gamin as part of the
> supported package set, not fam - so the current order makes it harder to
> reconcile Ubuntu's main archive.
> 
> And at one point, I thought Debian was switching to use gamin in preference
> over fam, as well - but this doesn't appear to be the case now?

There is absolutely zero point in using gamin under Linux, since the
built-in file monitoring in gio has the same features while being
maintained.

With gnome-vfs, there was a point using FAM, which works over remote
mounts, but gio will always use inotify when available, so remote
monitoring won’t work either. Which means libgio-fam is currently
totally useless under Linux. You can install it, it will make no
difference and will not be ever used.

Therefore, I think we should entirely disable libgio-fam under Linux. As
for FreeBSD, I don’t think fam nor gamin use kqueue, so they will
probably both do crappy polling. I’m not sure that’s worth building it,
but there is not much harm keeping the package around on !linux.

-- 
 .''`.      Josselin Mouette
: :' :
`. `'   “I recommend you to learn English in hope that you in
  `-     future understand things”  -- Jörg Schilling

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Message #15 received at 526219@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Josselin Mouette <joss@debian.org>
To: 526219@bugs.debian.org
Cc: Steve Langasek <steve.langasek@canonical.com>
Subject: Re: Bug#526219: glib2.0: prefer libgamin-dev over libfam-dev?
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 11:19:11 +0200

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Le jeudi 30 avril 2009 à 11:14 +0200, Josselin Mouette a écrit :
> Therefore, I think we should entirely disable libgio-fam under Linux. As
> for FreeBSD, I don’t think fam nor gamin use kqueue, so they will
> probably both do crappy polling. I’m not sure that’s worth building it,
> but there is not much harm keeping the package around on !linux.

After checking, gamin has kqueue support while fam has not. So there is
much interest in building libgio-fam, against gamin, on freebsd.

-- 
 .''`.      Josselin Mouette
: :' :
`. `'   “I recommend you to learn English in hope that you in
  `-     future understand things”  -- Jörg Schilling

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Message #20 received at 526219-close@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Sebastian Dröge <slomo@debian.org>
To: 526219-close@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Bug#526219: fixed in glib2.0 2.20.3-1
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 16:07:02 +0000

Source: glib2.0
Source-Version: 2.20.3-1

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
glib2.0, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive:

glib2.0_2.20.3-1.diff.gz
  to pool/main/g/glib2.0/glib2.0_2.20.3-1.diff.gz
glib2.0_2.20.3-1.dsc
  to pool/main/g/glib2.0/glib2.0_2.20.3-1.dsc
glib2.0_2.20.3.orig.tar.gz
  to pool/main/g/glib2.0/glib2.0_2.20.3.orig.tar.gz
libglib2.0-0-dbg_2.20.3-1_amd64.deb
  to pool/main/g/glib2.0/libglib2.0-0-dbg_2.20.3-1_amd64.deb
libglib2.0-0-refdbg_2.20.3-1_amd64.deb
  to pool/main/g/glib2.0/libglib2.0-0-refdbg_2.20.3-1_amd64.deb
libglib2.0-0_2.20.3-1_amd64.deb
  to pool/main/g/glib2.0/libglib2.0-0_2.20.3-1_amd64.deb
libglib2.0-data_2.20.3-1_all.deb
  to pool/main/g/glib2.0/libglib2.0-data_2.20.3-1_all.deb
libglib2.0-dev_2.20.3-1_amd64.deb
  to pool/main/g/glib2.0/libglib2.0-dev_2.20.3-1_amd64.deb
libglib2.0-doc_2.20.3-1_all.deb
  to pool/main/g/glib2.0/libglib2.0-doc_2.20.3-1_all.deb
libglib2.0-udeb_2.20.3-1_amd64.udeb
  to pool/main/g/glib2.0/libglib2.0-udeb_2.20.3-1_amd64.udeb



A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to 526219@bugs.debian.org,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

Debian distribution maintenance software
pp.
Sebastian Dröge <slomo@debian.org> (supplier of updated glib2.0 package)

(This message was generated automatically at their request; if you
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Format: 1.8
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 15:35:40 +0200
Source: glib2.0
Binary: libglib2.0-0 libglib2.0-udeb libglib2.0-dev libglib2.0-0-dbg libglib2.0-data libglib2.0-doc libgio-fam libglib2.0-0-refdbg
Architecture: source all amd64
Version: 2.20.3-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Loic Minier <lool@dooz.org>
Changed-By: Sebastian Dröge <slomo@debian.org>
Description: 
 libgio-fam - GLib Input, Output and Streaming Library (fam module)
 libglib2.0-0 - The GLib library of C routines
 libglib2.0-0-dbg - The GLib libraries and debugging symbols
 libglib2.0-0-refdbg - The GLib library of C routines - refdbg library
 libglib2.0-data - Common files for GLib library
 libglib2.0-dev - Development files for the GLib library
 libglib2.0-doc - Documentation files for the GLib library
 libglib2.0-udeb - The GLib library of C routines - minimal runtime (udeb)
Closes: 526219
Changes: 
 glib2.0 (2.20.3-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   [ Josselin Mouette ]
   * Only build the libgio-fam package for hurd and kfreebsd, it is
     totally useless under Linux.
   * Make it recommend gamin for kqueue support.
   * Make libgamin-dev the primary build-dependency. Closes: #526219.
 .
   [ Sebastian Dröge ]
   * New upstream bugfix release.
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