Debian Bug report logs - #500648
ITP: carol -- educational programming in a 3D environment

Package: wnpp; Maintainer for wnpp is wnpp@debian.org;

Reported by: bofh <goodb0fh@gmail.com>

Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 05:03:02 UTC

Owned by: "Luke Faraone" <luke@faraone.cc>

Severity: wishlist

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Report forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, unknown-package@qa.debian.org:
Bug#500648; Package alice. (Tue, 30 Sep 2008 05:03:04 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to bofh <goodb0fh@gmail.com>:
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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: bofh <goodb0fh@gmail.com>
To: submit@bugs.debian.org
Subject: RFP: alice -- educational programming in a 3D environment
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 00:59:46 -0400
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Package: alice
Severity: wishlist

Alice is an innovative 3D programming environment that makes it easy to
create an animation for telling a story, playing an interactive game, or a
video to share on the web. Alice is a teaching tool for introductory
computing. It uses 3D graphics and a drag-and-drop interface to facilitate a
more engaging, less frustrating first programming experience.

In Alice's interactive interface, students drag and drop graphic tiles to
create a program, where the instructions correspond to standard statements
in a production oriented programming language, such as Java, C++, and C#.
Alice allows students to immediately see how their animation programs run,
enabling them to easily understand the relationship between the programming
statements and the behavior of objects in their animation. By manipulating
the objects in their virtual world, students gain experience with all the
programming constructs typically taught in an introductory programming
course.

More information at http://www.alice.org/


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Bug reassigned from package `alice' to `wnpp'. Request was from Martin Michlmayr <tbm@cyrius.com> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Wed, 01 Oct 2008 06:54:04 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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Bug#500648; Package wnpp. (Thu, 02 Oct 2008 13:03:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to "Eugene V. Lyubimkin" <jackyf.devel@gmail.com>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to <wnpp@debian.org>. (Thu, 02 Oct 2008 13:03:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #12 received at 500648@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: "Eugene V. Lyubimkin" <jackyf.devel@gmail.com>
To: 500648@bugs.debian.org
Subject: DFSG-uncompatible license?
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 16:13:37 +0300
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As stated at Alice's homesite [1], alice has an EULA with item #3, which
is not compatible with DFSG in a similar to Mozilla's way.

[1] http://www.alice.org/index.php?page=license

-- 
Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF

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Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, <wnpp@debian.org>:
Bug#500648; Package wnpp. (Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:03:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Brandon <winterknight@nerdshack.com>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to <wnpp@debian.org>. (Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:03:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #17 received at 500648@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Brandon <winterknight@nerdshack.com>
To: 500648@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Alice has no EULA. It is free software.
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 12:59:04 -0700
Alice does not have a EULA. It is distributable under what appears to
be the 4-clause BSD license, which is considered a free license by FSF,
OSI, and Debian.

Unfortunatley, they do refer to their license as a EULA, and the first
sentence includes the word "use", but nowhere in the license do they
actually restrict use of the software.

-Brandon





Changed Bug title to `ITP: carol -- educational programming in a 3D' from `RFP: alice -- educational programming in a 3D environment'. Request was from "Luke Faraone" <luke@faraone.cc> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:21:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Owner recorded as "Luke Faraone" <luke@faraone.cc>. Request was from "Luke Faraone" <luke@faraone.cc> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:21:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Changed Bug title to `ITP: carol -- educational programming in a 3D environment' from `ITP: carol -- educational programming in a 3D'. Request was from "Luke Faraone" <luke@faraone.cc> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:30:06 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, <wnpp@debian.org>:
Bug#500648; Package wnpp. (Thu, 08 Jan 2009 00:03:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to "Luke Faraone" <luke@faraone.cc>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to <wnpp@debian.org>. (Thu, 08 Jan 2009 00:03:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #28 received at 500648@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: "Luke Faraone" <luke@faraone.cc>
To: 500648@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Status of Alice
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 19:02:19 -0500
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A current roadblock with Alice (er... "Carol", depending on whether
the ftpmasters consider the license free or not) packaging is that
there is no Linux source available. According to upstream, "better
linux support" will be forthcoming with the 3.0 release of Alice this
Spring.

As such, I'm holding off with an attempt to package until upstream
starts offering source.

Luke Faraone
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